Episodes

Thursday Mar 24, 2022
Fadi Aboualfa - Head of Research, Copper – Ep022
Thursday Mar 24, 2022
Thursday Mar 24, 2022
Welcome to another episode of CopperCasts. Our guest for the 22th edition is Fadi Aboualfa.
Fadi is well-known in crypto circles as the founder of Diar, a (now retired) newsletter providing market intelligence for the digital asset sector. Since 2021, Fadi has served as the research lead here at Copper, delivering detailed analysis of the crypto market to Copper’s institutional clients via various reports: the monthly Analyst Retrospective, In-Depth, Op-Ed and the Technical Analysis series.
CopperCasts are split into two parts. The first is a short (2min) video in which our guest shares with us something they find unusual or inspiring about the digital asset space. The second half is a traditional audio-only podcast, which you can search for in all the usual places.
In this wide-ranging conversation with host, Tyler Kenyon, Fadi details the origins of his interest in crypto, the industry's future in politics, and thoughts on how public blockchains can support a robust, secure and transparent digital economy.
Don't forget to check out Fadi's Show & Tell on our Youtube channel. Here, he explains that despite institutions spending $300bn+ annually to combat financial crimes, only 0.1% of criminal funds are recovered because of these anti-money laundering measures. Perhaps, though, better solutions exist?
Don’t forget to download the full episode, and subscribe on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
You can hear more from the Copper team by following @CopperHQ on Twitter, or visit our site and subscribe to our weekly newsletter, copper.co/insights.

Thursday Mar 03, 2022
Philippe Naegeli – Co-Founder and CEO, GenTwo – Ep021
Thursday Mar 03, 2022
Thursday Mar 03, 2022
Episode 21 of CopperCasts is brought to you from Zurich, Switzerland – a region where an investment vehicle innovation called Actively Managed Certificates (AMCs) is massively accelerating the adoption of digital assets.
Host, Tyler Kenyon, sits down with Philippe Naegeli, founder of the Zurich-based securitisation specialist, GenTwo, and its subsidiary, GenTwo Digital, to discuss how digital assets can be securitised with a Swiss ISIN.
CopperCasts are split into two parts. The first is a short (2min) video in which our guest shares with us something they find unusual or inspiring about the digital asset space. The second half is a traditional audio-only podcast, which you can search for in all the usual places.
In the interview part of the podcast, Philippe sheds light on the GenTwo AMC ecosystem, bridging the TradFi and crypto worlds, and why it took time for Crypto Valley to warm to the concept of securitising cryptoassets. He also provides colour on how the regulatory landscape in Switzerland is evolving and shares what he's seeing that has him excited about the future of crypto.
Make sure to check out Philippe's Show & Tell on our Youtube channel. Here, he discusses the astronomical growth of GenTwo, which today boasts more than $1.6bn in assets under service and works with over 5% of all financial intermediaries in Switzerland.

Wednesday Feb 16, 2022
Patrick Zielbauer – Global Strategic Accounts, Blockfills – Ep020
Wednesday Feb 16, 2022
Wednesday Feb 16, 2022
Episode 20 of CopperCasts welcomes Patrick Zielbauer of Blockfills.
Blockfills is a cryptoasset electronic market making, trading and prime brokerage firm with over 600 institutional clients that has seen an explosion of growth.
CopperCasts are split into two parts. The first is a short (2min) video in which our guest shares with us something they find unusual or inspiring about the digital asset space. The second half is a traditional audio-only podcast, which you can search for in all the usual places.
In his conversation with host, Tyler Kenyon, Patrick explains the origins story of Blockfills and how the organisation build out its derivatives, structured products and mining pool solutions in-house. He also shares his thoughts about the future of the digital asset space and what he’s most excited about.
Make sure to check out Patrick's Show & Tell on our Youtube channel to hear Patrick explain why institutional investors should be demanding the same white glove service from crypto service providers that they are used to receiving in the legacy markets.
You can hear more from the Copper team by following @CopperHQ, or visit our site and subscribe to our weekly newsletter, copper.co/insights.

Tuesday Dec 21, 2021
Mona El Isa - Founder, Enzyme Finance - Ep019
Tuesday Dec 21, 2021
Tuesday Dec 21, 2021
Episode 19 of CopperCasts welcomes DeFi entrepreneur, Mona El Isa, who joins us at our London office to discuss her popular on-chain asset management protocol, Enzyme Finance.
Enzyme empowers individuals to set up, manage and invest in customised on-chain investment vehicles. According to DeFi Pulse, the protocol currently has over $138m in assets committed to the platform.
CopperCasts are split into two parts. The first is a short (2min) video in which our guest shares with us something they find unusual or inspiring about the digital asset space. The second half is a traditional audio-only podcast, which you can search for in all the usual places.
In this audio-only conversation, Mona talks to host, Tyler Kenyon, about her background as a trader at Goldman Sachs and a fund manager, and the struggles she faced in TradFi. She then details what attracted her to the world of crypto, the origin story of Enzyme and also discusses the protocol’s new Sulu release.
Make sure to check out Mona's Show & Tell on our Youtube channel to hear Mona discuss the asset management tech stack for DeFi and the growth of the Enzyme protocol.
Don’t forget to download the full episode, and subscribe on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
You can hear more from the Copper team by following @CopperHQ, or visit our site and subscribe to our weekly newsletter, copper.co/insights.

Friday Nov 19, 2021
Nate Hindman - Head of Growth, Bancor - Ep018
Friday Nov 19, 2021
Friday Nov 19, 2021
Episode 18 of CopperCasts welcomes Nate Hindman, Head of Growth at Bancor.
Bancor is an on-chain liquidity protocol that enables automated, decentralised exchange on the Ethereum network. Bancor is perhaps most famous for pioneering the world's first blockchain-based automated liquidity pool, or automated market maker (AMM).
CopperCasts are split into two parts. The first is a short (2min) video in which our guest shares with us something they find unusual or inspiring about the digital asset space.
The second half is a traditional audio-only podcast, which you can search for in all the usual places.
In this audio-only conversation with CopperCasts host, Tyler Kenyon. Nate details Bancor's history, what sets it apart from Uniswap and SushiSwap as an automated market maker, the protocol's pioneering role in protecting against impermanent loss, and the upcoming release of Bancor V3
In his Show & Tell, Nate dives deeper into the issue of impermanent loss and how Bancor is able to provide IL protection.

Thursday Nov 11, 2021
Rebecca Ferguson - Actress - CopperCasts Ep 017
Thursday Nov 11, 2021
Thursday Nov 11, 2021
In somewhat of a departure from our regularly scheduled programming, we bring you a unique episode of Coppercasts with our special guest, award-winning actress Rebecca Ferguson.
Copper recently released its first foray into the world of television advertising, with a 30 sec exclusive spot on Bloomberg. In this episode we speak to our leading lady about her star-studded career, growing up in Sweden, shooting her newest film Dune (out now, and amazing!), NFTs, and crypto writ large.
I can honestly say I've never had this much fun talking about crypto. We don't have our usual Show & Tell element, but in this case we have something better. Check out Rebecca and Copper's first TV commercial here.
Don’t forget to download the full episode, and subscribe on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
You can hear more from the Copper team by following @CopperHQ, or visit our site and subscribe to our weekly newsletter, copper.co/insights.

Tuesday Sep 07, 2021
Jakob Palmstierna – Partner, GSR – CopperCasts Ep 016
Tuesday Sep 07, 2021
Tuesday Sep 07, 2021
Welcome to episode 16 of CopperCasts. This interview is with Jakob Palmstierna, partner at GSR.
Founded in 2013, GSR is a leading global market maker for cryptocurrency spot and crypto derivative markets.
In this conversation, CopperCasts host Tyler Kenyon and Jakob go into detail about the expansion of the crypto derivatives and options markets. Jakob also sheds lights on derivatives within the DeFi space, the crucial role GSR will play in DeFi options, as well regulatory complexities in the wider crypto markets.
Make sure to also check out Jakob's Show & tell on our Youtube channel. In this 2 minute clip, he examines the growth of the crypto derivatives and options, detailing why he believes that these markets may eventually outsize the spot markets 10 to 1 in the years to come.

Friday Jul 23, 2021
John Newbery – Founder & Director, Brink – CopperCasts Ep 015
Friday Jul 23, 2021
Friday Jul 23, 2021
Many people think of Bitcoin as a 'finished product’ that does not require technical improvements. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Today, it is estimated that there are around 20-30 developers fixing bugs, improving performance and adding new features to Bitcoin.
Episode 15 of CopperCasts welcomes John Newbery, one such developer who for over five years has been working on enhancing the security of the most sophisticated software of our time.
In 2020, John founded Brink, a non-profit organisation that supports Bitcoin’s open source developer community and has already funded six developers through its grants and fellowship programs.
In this fascinating conversation with Tyler, John explains the inner workings of bitcoin core development, highlights the challenges that Brink is tackling and also describes Bitcoin’s upgrade path.
Make sure to check out John’s Show & Tell on our Youtube channel where he unpacks how Brink is contributing to Bitcoin’s long-term success in a 3min explainer.
Don’t forget to download the full episode, and subscribe on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
You can hear more from the Copper team by following @CopperHQ, or visit our site and subscribe to our weekly newsletter, copper.co/insights.

Tuesday Mar 23, 2021
Philip Gradwell – Chief Economist, Chainalysis – CopperCasts Ep 014
Tuesday Mar 23, 2021
Tuesday Mar 23, 2021
The latest CopperCasts episode welcomes Philip Gradwell, Chief Economist at Chainalysis, the blockchain analysis company.
In this conversation, you’ll get a glimpse of how difficult it is to link a wallet address to real identities, how privacy coins such as Monero work, Chainalysis’ plans in DeFi, the true scale of illicit activity occurring on the network, and buying socks with Bitcoin (which Philip once did!).
Make sure to also check out Philip’s Show & Tell on our Youtube channel, which looks at institutional inflows into the space. Philip describes that since November, large whales have bought 1.7m Bitcoin in total at an average cost of $35k per Bitcoin. He concludes that the willingness to buy the digital asset at this price level likely puts a new floor on the Bitcoin price of at least $35k.
Don’t forget to download the full episode, and subscribe on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
You can hear more from the Copper team by following @CopperHQ, or visit our site and subscribe to our weekly newsletter, copper.co/insights.

Friday Mar 05, 2021
Hugo Philion – Co-Founder & CEO, Flare Networks – CopperCasts Ep 013
Friday Mar 05, 2021
Friday Mar 05, 2021
Welcome to another episode of CopperCasts, where we recently had the opportunity to sit down and chat with Hugo Philion, CEO and co-creator of Flare Network.
CopperCasts are split into two parts. The first is a short (2min) video in which our guest shares with us something they find unusual or inspiring about the digital asset space. The second half is a traditional audio-only podcast, which you can stream at the bottom of this page, or search for it in all the usual places.
In this longer conversation with our host, Tyler Kenyon, Hugo dives in and lays out all the facts on what Flare is. He explains how Flare is able to provide assets such as Ripple, Litecoin, Stellar and Dogecoin a trustless way of accessing smart contracts, so that these assets can enter the exciting world of NFTs and all of the future developments that smart contracts bring.
Tyler and Hugo also touch on other topics such as regulation, celebrity endorsement of the space and what we can expect in the near future.
Short on time but keen to hear what Flare is from the horse’s mouth? Make sure to check out Hugo’s Show & Tell on our Youtube Channel for a 2min description of Flare and the value it can bring to the crypto community.
Don’t forget to download the full episode, and subscribe on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
You can hear more from the Copper team by following @CopperHQ, or visit our site and subscribe to our weekly newsletter, copper.co/insights.